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Post  renodraws on Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:02 pm

All over the world especially Central and South American, the US asks for cooperation on the war on drugs. These countries range from our neighbor to the south, Mexico, where violent drug gangs recieve huge profits because of the illegal nature of drugs from US citizens and the Mexico government recieves aid from the US government that leaves it severly under funded to fight the drug cartel hit squads that contain many former Mexican soilders who are now paid better and have better equipment than their oppenents in the Mexican army. Who expects to win a fight against an enemy with much better weapons and funding?

The violence between the Army and Cartels is continuing to escalate with wide ranges on the number killed this year. But a Dec 2008 AP article put it at 5,300, in one year. And these are not just the privates in the army but high ranking members on the Mexican Government. Edgar Millan Gomez, Police Comander Benjamin Espinosa , Inspector Igor Labastida

While some police and military personel are killed, others are simply corupted by the vast amount of money that these cartels possess. Head of Interpol Mexico, Ricardo Gutierrez Vargas

My question is could have these criminial organizations gain the resources to wage war against it's nation's police and army forces without a huge black market in a rich industrialized country to provide huge amounts of cash to its organzation to buy men that have been trained the the Mexican and US governments and the guns and vehicles that are required to hold their own against a large nationally organized group of trained police and military.

I call the Government to remove a hugely profitable black market and therefore deny income to these criminal organzations. And if they really want the drug market to fail they should just take it over. We all know how things fair under Government control Razz

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Post  renodraws on Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:05 pm

Other countries such as Equador are convinced to take on long lease agreements to let the US set up a military base in their country to base aerial surveillance missions. The lease is approaching the end and Ecuador said it would not extend the lease. El Salvador and Curacao also are the home to the other two counternarcotic bases.
Boliva recently kicked out all of the DEA agents that were in the country.

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Post  renodraws on Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:10 am

Let's legalize marijuana personal growing and businesses and put all of the other drugs (LSD, that don't have much of a market) in to a legal gray area where they can't be manufactured legally, so no large manufacture's spring up because I don't think anyone needs a steady source of acid, but tax money would not be spent by the government. The regulator body created to tax marijuana businesses would make sure that the gray market drugs aren't sold through them directly. Main point of this would it would remove drug criminals for purely recreational drug use.

Move on to the harder drugs like heroin and cocaine that provide large amounts of income to domestic gangs, international groups, and actual terrorist used to buy guns and protection. Take all the money we have been using to prosecute 800K marijuana smokers and do two things.
First, have the US government provide the drugs to long time drug addicts for extremely reduced prices and second, attack those supply routes of the gangs and their structures while stealing all of their customers with a better cheaper product.
This would put you in the black immediately because of the tax revenue from selling weed.

Any strategy that the government takes must include befriending the drug user by removing the penalties for partaking in a drug that does not have a preferred legal status. Only then will cooperate with the police to stop the violence in their neighborhoods. All the violence occurs because of people trying to control a very lucrative drug trade. Take away motivation and it will die. Treat the user, don't lock up the user.


It is just an idea, for now.

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Post  RemOrb on Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:15 pm

I think all drugs should be legalized for the simple fact that prohibition has never and will never work. Truly it can be said that a few extra people may OD on heroin or cocaine if this were to happen but that's just natural selection or as I like to say the herd thinning itself out. As for needing a good supply of LSD well I'd like to have some lab quality laying around just in case I get the urge to go Space Cadet.

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Post  OG PooPiN on Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:50 pm

lol It does seem like allowing there to be a black market at all would be bad- with any drug. You allow a lack of education on the subjects and create more problems. If all drugs were legal and you had REAL education on them and what they do.....I really doubt you'd have near as many overdoses, murders, organized crime....

If some drugs were kept illegal then their intrigue would go up, like teen looking at alcohol. In the Netherlands pot is legal and the teenage use is WAY less than ours per person....So it seems to point to legalization PROTECTING the people in a lot of ways.

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